Curse

Trance Addict · Nov 11, 2005, 02:06 PM // 14:06

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Sorry Gaile, but chances are the goal of eliminating soloists most likely has not been accomplished. This is more detrimental to those who group.

That's actually untrue.

All soloists use AoE Damage (B-Aura/SoW/etc). Now, as someone else stated, people will practically have to accept Hydromancers/Mesmers/Necros/Rangers in their groups. How is that worst for people who wish to group? It's not. This is what the game needed. Some diversity in PvE and actually something that made it more challenging.

id0l · Nov 11, 2005, 02:07 PM // 14:07

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Originally Posted by Elistan Theocrat

Omg The Sky Is Falling The Sky Is Falling!!!

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Originally Posted by Former Ruling

Can I just comment that this kind of reaction happens everytime Runescape updates..It was funny when i was playing that.

They could add a new weapon..500 people threaten to quit cause weapon isnt the l33t'est weapon EVAR. They could add a new quest..and 1,000 people will say they'll quit because the quest isnt easy enough/hard enough/big enough/good enough reward/etc. And so on and so on...

So this is nothing lol.

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Originally Posted by dreamcrafter

Ooooohhh N0Zor, I can't use my standard bulid that I got m3 fr0m da intertr0n... now I need to get rangers and mezmaz and all the other n00bs in my gr0up if I want to stand a chance in PVE... and I gota talk to other ppl and come up with something like a strategy instead of relying on a 2 tanks 4 eles 2 monks build..

You ruinz0red the game for me!!!!

whine whine whine

Wow, troll harder guys...

Don't post your mindless dribble. Use your brain and post something other than l33tsp34k, whine whine whine, lame Runescape tales, etc...if you don't have a point that is relevant to the update, avoid posting.

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Originally Posted by Trance Addict

That's actually untrue.

All soloists use AoE Damage (B-Aura/SoW/etc). Now, as someone else stated, people will practically have to accept Hydromancers/Mesmers/Necros/Rangers in their groups.

Yeah, uh, wrong.

Runesmith · Nov 11, 2005, 02:08 PM // 14:08

Anet keeps making changes to reduce the effectiveness of farming, right? There is an extremely simple fix that would kill farming entirely. Remove person to person trade. I would rather see that than update after update that totally nerfs skills and builds. This has gone on for too long. Sell everything to merchants, buy everthing from merchants. This is a role playing game, not an economy game.

Sekkira · Nov 11, 2005, 02:09 PM // 14:09

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Originally Posted by dreamcrafter

Ooooohhh N0Zor, I can't use my standard bulid that I got m3 fr0m da intertr0n... now I need to get rangers and mezmaz and all the other n00bs in my gr0up if I want to stand a chance in PVE... and I gota talk to other ppl and come up with something like a strategy instead of relying on a 2 tanks 4 eles 2 monks build..

You ruinz0red the game for me!!!!

whine whine whine

The entire fire line may as well be deleted. This update is instead of giving the fire line it's much needed buffing, a skullRED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO instead. Enjoy your AIDS.

MarkyX · Nov 11, 2005, 02:09 PM // 14:09

I like the update.

For those who complain, you were pretty much the reason why PvE was so boring in the first place. Maybe now players will bring someonthing else besides FIRE magic and people might actually...you know, think for themselves.

Although I much prefer PvP, PvE is a bit of a challenge right now and no longer accepts cookie cutter builds.

Trance Addict · Nov 11, 2005, 02:10 PM // 14:10

Sekkira,

What do you mean buffing up Fire skills? Anyone who knows how to press the keypads 1 through 8 could nuclear. Now, you actually have to use OTHER skills and other strats rather than getting the warrior to aggro and the nuclears to kill them.

apocalypse_xx · Nov 11, 2005, 02:11 PM // 14:11

Hello everyone, after reading all the posts and giving

this last update some serious thought I wanted to share

my feelings and I think that many people who play GW

like myself may be feeling the same things. First of

all, I have been playing GW since it's public release on

April 28th and have accumulated several million exp

points on 2 different charcters. These 2 characters

completed the game 100%, every mission, every bonus,

every quest and I enjoyed it immensely. After that, I

enjoyed very much seeking out rare and perfect weapons,

my fissure armor, my 1000p in storage, I really enjoy

the thrill in treasure hunting, my favorite axe is a

6-20 tribal, or my 6-20 sickle, I love rare and/or

awesome looking items. But now, with all of these

things accomplished, I find myself looking for more, I

used to love solo ing the UW, just because to me it was

fun wondering what rare drop I might get, even the

previous solo nerfs were very much welcomed by me since

I had to re-invent how I solo, btw, I can still solo

everywhere that I could before this last update, even

the UW, only, it takes me a tiny bit longer, no big

deal, but what this last update did confirm to me is

that I had been fooling myself, this game is about

teamwork, it is not meant to be played the way I enjoyed

playing it, I don't like pvp, never have, I do however

like the community and co-op missions, but they only

last for so long, I thought the Halloween event was

amazing, I found myself laughing out loud on several

occasions, but this is not enough, and sadly I realize

that even chapter 2 will not fufill what it is I am

looking for, I want to search for rare items, I want to

log in and quickly treasure hunt by myself sometimes,

but this is not what GW is all about and the devs told

us that right from the beginning, so here is point, I am

not bashing GW at all, I very much got my money's worth

from the game, it is an awesome game, however, like

myself, perhaps some other players need to examine what

it is that they need from a game, and if their needs are

like mine, then maybe GW is not for us...after all, it was

never intended to be. So, I truly hope GW will remain

strong and the players will remain happy, thank you for

reading and thanks for the fun 6 months

id0l · Nov 11, 2005, 02:12 PM // 14:12

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Originally Posted by MarkyX

I like the update.

For those who complain, you were pretty much the reason why PvE was so boring in the first place. Maybe now players will bring someonthing else besides FIRE magic and people might actually...you know, think for themselves.

Although I much prefer PvP, PvE is a bit of a challenge right now and no longer accepts cookie cutter builds.

I complain about the update so that means I was making it boring? Yeah, good rock solid point you have there, Einstein. I do have a Fire Ele, but I also have...lets see, a MONK, a RANGER, and a WARRIOR. Hmm, my FAVORITE classes weren't touched by the trash-update, but that doesn't make the update any less trash.

Trance Addict · Nov 11, 2005, 02:13 PM // 14:13

Every bonus? How did you do Dunes of Despair bonus?

Trippy · Nov 11, 2005, 02:14 PM // 14:14

[rant]

i never complained about the game before, i've never disagreed with any update until now.

THANKS ArenaNet for screwing my Fire Elementalist

not only did you screw farmers (which i disgust, but that's a different issue) you also screwed every normal player that likes fire element.

good job!!

[/rant]

apocalypse_xx · Nov 11, 2005, 02:15 PM // 14:15

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Originally Posted by Trance Addict

Every bonus? How did you do Dunes of Despair bonus?

You go and kill the bosses around the throne area before the ritual is complete

I believe there is 3 you must kill

Trance Addict · Nov 11, 2005, 02:16 PM // 14:16

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not only did you screw farmers (which i disgust, but that's a different issue) you also screwed every normal player that likes fire element.

You mean 99.9999999% of elementalists? Everyone likes them because if you're high, drunk and blind, you could nuke effectively.

MarkyX · Nov 11, 2005, 02:16 PM // 14:16

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Originally Posted by id0l

I complain about the update so that means I was making it boring? Yeah, good rock solid point you have there, Einstein. I do have a Fire Ele, but I also have...lets see, a MONK, a RANGER, and a WARRIOR. Hmm, my FAVORITE classes weren't touched by the trash-update, but that doesn't make the update any less trash.

Let me see...in order to make a good PvE group pre-build, all you need was a buttRED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO load of warriors, one or two nukers, and two monks.

Yep, no room for mesmers, necros, and rangers. Gotta love isolating other classes from playing the game.

You were probably one of those type of people who wouldn't let a mesmer in because they don't deal 3000000 damage in 2 seconds.

Rau · Nov 11, 2005, 02:17 PM // 14:17

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Originally Posted by apocalypse_xx

Hello everyone, after reading all the posts and giving

and for all those poeple that are out there that seek the same as apocalypse..
this game is ruined

.

apocalypse_xx · Nov 11, 2005, 02:19 PM // 14:19

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Originally Posted by Rau

and for all those poeple that are out there that seek the same as apocalypse..
this game is ruined

.

To be fair, I don't believe we should have ever expected it in the first place, like I said, this last update did not kill the way I like to play, It just confirmed to me that Anet does not want players like myself, and I suppose that is fair enough

Oh ya sorry about the funky spacing on my first post, don't quite know what happened there

Dancing Blade · Nov 11, 2005, 02:23 PM // 14:23

Because of this update i dont have any reason to live anymore. Since im going to kill myself now i wont be able to purchase the addon. Sorry, ArenaNet.

Sekkira · Nov 11, 2005, 02:24 PM // 14:24

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Originally Posted by Trance Addict

Sekkira,

What do you mean buffing up Fire skills? Anyone who knows how to press the keypads 1 through 8 could nuclear. Now, you actually have to use OTHER skills and other strats rather than getting the warrior to aggro and the nuclears to kill them.

What do you mean "What do you mean buffing up fire skills?"?

Every single class can outdamage the elementalist, the class that's supposed to be the damage dealer, particularly the fire line. Now on top of being completely useless (aside from the three altar maps in TotPK) in PvP, they also have no place in PvE either.

Warriors were tanks (not all I know) absorbing all the damage and you'd have the casters in the back line doing their thing. That doesn't exactly work anymore. You usually throw AoE on that mob laying into the tanks. That AoE now breaks aggro, and oh look, those casters are in range. Now for the battlefield to turn to complete chaos as the tanks job is useless and an elementalist can only scatter enemies, not do the damage they're supposed to do. On top of that, all the squishies are running around as headless chickens just like the mobs.

By disabling this concept of AoE, it's been rendered useless, changing the face of PvE as we know it completely.

District 1 of Ring of Fire:

"Looking for a tank... I mean... Err... A warrior... A... Umm.. Ranger... Err... How will this work... Lets just bring all warriors and rangers as they have a lot of armour!"

lishi · Nov 11, 2005, 02:24 PM // 14:24

im gonna sell the sup fire rune im keeping before price fall

id0l · Nov 11, 2005, 02:25 PM // 14:25

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Originally Posted by MarkyX

Let me see...in order to make a good PvE group pre-build, all you need was a buttRED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO load of warriors, one or two nukers, and two monks.

Yep, no room for mesmers, necros, and rangers. Gotta love isolating other classes from playing the game.

You were probably one of those type of people who wouldn't let a mesmer in because they don't deal 3000000 damage in 2 seconds.

Are you serious? Reread what you just typed. First you say in order to make a good group, all you needed was warriors, nukers, monks. No room for the rest. Then you say I'm probably one of the people who wouldn't let a mesmer in? LOL.

Not that I so much as even agree on that uber leet party makeup.

With 1,500 hours played, 10 characters+, a pantsfull of PvP and GvG experience, and being an established guild leader for 6 months, I think I know when it's advantageous to bring certain class along. Best time to bring a fire ele now (oh, or smiting monk, or AoE mesmer, etc. etc.)? Never. Unless you have at least 2 other characters only concentrating in keeping those enemies in the AoE. Not worth it, to say the least.

As someone so eloquently put it earlier...
UPDATE BAD! HULK SMASH UPDATE!

Xa Panda · Nov 11, 2005, 02:27 PM // 14:27

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Originally Posted by EternalTempest

Savio: This will be my ONLY warning: flame any more and you will be one step closer to the banstick.

Update - Thursday, November 10

* Improved the character name and guild name entry dialogs.

* Improved AI so that henchmen and monsters can now detect and flee from area-effect damage spells.

* Improved AI so that monsters will eventually stop chasing fleeing players.

* Slightly reduced the power of the Doppelganger creature.

* Fixed a bug which could cause certain animated ground cover to not be animated.

* Fixed a bug which could cause two copies of Gwen to appear in pre-searing Ascalon.

* Fixed a bug with certain enemies not attacking players in the Gates of Kryta mission.

* Fixed an exploit which could allow players to create PvP characters with invalid armor. Thanks to Derek Ravenclaw for reporting this.

There is already a threed about farm nerf (it got closed pretty quick) about AOE is causing mobs to scatter. I honestly don't think that was there goal, it looks like PvE got a bit harder (no complaints from me)

This screams if the monsters are beating you, retreat and regroup it gets to hot.

w00t doppleganger down!